It's hang-on, of course!
It's not a hang-on, it's properly a hang-off. No, wait a minute. Hang-on and Lean-in are the same things.
I started this theme on behalf of everyone.
The fact that the words are as different as "hang-on" and "lean-in" means that there is a real difference between the two.
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- There are three main types of riding forms
- With Leaning Characteristics
- Without leaning characteristics
- Lean-In Characteristics
- Which one is the fastest you can ride?
- So what is a hang-on (hang-off)?
- Actually a difficult hang-on posture.
- Who is faster on public roads?
- So who is faster on the track?
- I use both on the track these days.
There are three main types of riding forms
There are three types: Lean-in, With lean, and Without lean. The difference is the position of the upper body in relation to the lean of the body.
With leaning means when the lean of the body is the same as the lean of the upper body. Without leaning means when the upper body is up rather than the leaning of the body. Lean-in means when the lean of the upper body is greater than the lean of the body. Here's a quick image.
*Hang on a bit later on.
With Leaning Characteristics
It is the most natural position. The basis of everything. There is no movement of the rider against the body of the motorcycle, and he is riding the corner in the same position as he was in the straight.
Because the head is in the center of the body, it is easy to grasp the movement of the vehicle and it is also easy to grab the movement of the vehicle and not to put force on any part of the body. Since there is no pressure on the body, it is hard to interfere with the movement of the handlebars, and it is hard to hold onto the handlebars and not be able to turn or have a backhanded feeling, so you can get the most natural handling for normal riding. That's why it's the basic stance of everything.
Basically, this is the normal position to ride in and you can do anything you want with it.
Without leaning characteristics
This is a unique pose where the inside arm extends and the outside arm bends. The advantage of this system is that you can get a higher perspective, which allows you to see in blind corners where visibility is poor, and it is easier to deal with large swings in the motorcycle. That's why this position is so common in off-road situations. It's easier for your body to cope with the slide of the tire.
Also, at very low speeds, you can bank the body more deeply than with lean-whiz, which makes it easier to turn. It's especially useful in U-turns, where you can easily balance your body and make a very easy U-turn. Isn't that a bit much? I recommend taking a lean-out stance with such flair that you can make an incredibly spirited U-turn.
The disadvantage is that the body tilts a lot, so it's easy to slip down. So, while it is super effective at low speeds where there is no danger of slipping, it is not suitable for high-speed corners. Another disadvantage is that you can easily bend the handlebars because you can easily put pressure on them (i.e., you won't be able to turn).
On the other hand, when you make a U-turn, you can turn the handlebars to the inside of the turn by your own will, which gives you the advantage of being able to turn more aggressively. If you have a low speed, it's easy to keep your balance by turning the handlebars, and it's also effective for avoiding U-turn moss.
As opposed to leaning out, this is a unique pose where the outside arm extends and the inside arm bends. Beginners who are afraid to tilt the motorcycle tend to fall into strange positions. You don't have to bank it too much to be able to bend it.It is effective. I can turn without leaning over. It is very useful in slippery, rainy, high-speed corners.
The downside is the exact opposite of lean out. It's hard to see beyond the corner because your perspective is lowered, and it's hard to deal with a tire slide.
Which one is the fastest you can ride?
This depends on the situation. Lean out is definitely the fastest for the fastest U-turn, and if you're in a high-speed corner, lean-in is the fastest because it brings the center of gravity low and inward. Lean-with is probably the fastest if you're driving on the highway or in the city in an unhurried manner because it doesn't get tiring.
However, on public roads, speed is not always better, so safety and ease of riding should be more important than speed. However, if you're in a position that leads to speed, even if you're not riding fast, you can see that your safety is enhanced, and you should be conscious of changing your upper body position to experience this.
Personally, I would like everyone to experience more of a lean-out posture during a U-turn.
I'm not so good at U-turns that I can brag about it, but it's so easy to ride that even I can feel the lean-out U-turn clearly.
So what is a hang-on (hang-off)?
As I mentioned at the beginning, the correct name is Hang Off, not Hang On. The word "hang off" comes from "falling down" to "hang + off". For some reason, the term "hang-on" has become common in Japan, but how it came to be called that is a mystery.
The difference between hang-on (hang-off) and lean-in is that the lower body moves inward in relation to the body of the motorcycle. Like Lean-In, the aim is to bring the center of gravity inward from the body, but Lean-In moves the center of gravity inward, while Hang-on moves the lower half of the body to the inside of the body, which allows you to turn the motorcycle without having to bank the body much.
The disadvantage is that you have to move left and right on the seat, which is quite tiring, and you can't make the motorcycle into a human vehicle with both feet between them. This makes it easy to cling to the steering wheel, which prevents the natural movement of the steering wheel and makes it difficult to turn. But the difference is that unlike Lean-In, the head remains in the center of the body, so the perspective is not as low as Lean-In.
Actually a difficult hang-on posture.
The hang-on is very popular with "race enthusiasts" and "speed is the right thing to do" types, perhaps because it is easy to give the impression of a fast rider because it looks so flashy and deviates from the basic riding posture of a normal motorcycle sitting in the middle of the seat.
It's rather easy to imitate the pose. Just shift your hips to the inside and open your knees on the inside and you're done.
However, this is just a pose, and it's rare to find someone who is actually able to achieve the same level of the center of gravity shift effect as Lean In. Lean-in works well as long as you keep your upper body in, whereas hang-on requires you to open your lower body, which is a problem. It's hard to hang on to the right things.
Hang-on requires the lower body to be integrated with the motorcycle in the same way as it is in Lean With, with the lower body in an open position. And in a position like that, but with no effort on the handlebars. If you hold the handlebars to shift the center of gravity and interfere with self-steer, you'll end up falling to your knees. If you put too much pressure on the handlebars to support your body, you won't be able to turn more than lean in, let alone lean with.
But, if you don't hang on properly, you won't be able to turn, so you have to take it all the way down, and if you take it all the way down, your knees will be in the ground, and if you take it all the way down, the tire will be used up to the edge, and if you take it all the way down, the tire will slide, and I'm taking down a lot of people, so I look fancy, I'm going pretty fast, and when you put it all together, it's like, "I'm fast! It tends to be a feeling of just an illusion.
I went to the circuit thinking it was fast, but it wasn't a good story, and I was overtaken by a despondent ...... rider who didn't even scrape his knees at all while I was doing my best at a full bank.
Well, that was me when I was young.
Hang-on is hard to do.
Thus, it's pretty hard to get the hang-on effect right.Even if you go on a big ride through the pass, it's practically impossible to learn it on public roads alone...?
Do you have to experience it on the track to get a convincing hang on?
Who is faster on public roads?
To begin with, it's silly to worry about being fast or slow on public roads, so let's not do it. That kind of thing is only OK in comics.
So who is faster on the track?
Move the center of gravity to the inside, lower the center of gravity, and avoid tipping the body as much as possible. The effect is the same whether you lean-in or hang-on because the goal and the result are the same. So there is no such thing as which is faster. They are both the same.
A bit surprising, right?
"So why aren't there any lean-in riders in MotoGP?"Some may argue that this is the case.
I can't be sure, but I think the following are the reasons why hang-on are currently the norm on the track.
Reason #1: Because it's easy to ride.
The track has far more cornering time than public roads. That's because it's easier and more comfortable to ride a hang-on, where you can just hook your legs and hang back once your lower body is moved, rather than a lean-in, where you have to force your upper body to the inside. It's that kind of posture that looks like you're pushing yourself, but leaning in means you're going to be in a more impossible position. Easier means you can conserve your energy, which is obviously an advantage in the second half of the race, right? So hang on.
Reason #2: The bank angle is easy to understand
The advantage of this is that the knee touches the ground, allowing you to easily determine the bank angle. When the knee touches the ground in lean-in, it's already at the limit of the bank angle, but with hang-on, it's easy to see how far you've fallen since the knee touches the ground far before the limit. So hang on.
Reason #3: Because separate handles have become the norm in racing.
Clip-on handlebars were introduced to reduce air resistance and increase top speed. Many people misunderstand, but the clip-on handlebars were not designed to achieve the best position in the corners. This is just for maximum speed and to reduce air resistance.
Anyway, the separate handle was adopted for maximum speed, but it is not suitable for lean-in at all because of its strange position and shape. Especially since the early separate handles had a tremendous angle of squeeze and a tremendous droop angle, and there was a lot of effort to reduce air resistance. A lean-in stance is practically impossible.You have to bend your wrists to the point of breaking them when leaning in, and it's impossible to have fine throttle control in that position. But if you're a hang-on, your upper body is still in the center, so you'll be fine. So hang on.
Reason #4: Because it was a fashion?
It was Kenny Roberts who brought the hang-on to the world of road racing in a big way. There were hang-on styles before Kenny, but Kenny Roberts is the first person to win a world championship in hang-on style.
It was always cool to be a champion, and all the riders in the world admired it. Since it was a unique riding form (hang-on), that's the secret to speed, and it's no wonder that this is the case. If everyone rides hang-on style, the chassis will evolve to fit the hang-on style, so nowadays the chassis is designed to be a ridden hang-on style. When the body is configured that way, you have to hang on to it to go fast. So hang on.
Because of this history, no one rides lean-in today and everyone is hang-on style. Which one is faster? The motorcycle body can only accept hang-on, so you need to hang-on to go fast.
On the other hand, if the motorcycle body is not designed to hang on (for example, scrambler type), there is no need to adjust to hang on, so the effect is the same for both hang on and lean-in, and there is no difference in speed.
I use both on the track these days.
Hang-on and lean-in, which are tricks to allow the motorcycle to turn as much as possible without tipping over, became mainstream for a variety of reasons, such as those mentioned above. That was roughly in the mid-1980s. After Kenny Roberts became champion, the hang-on became completely civilized and common.
It was probably around the 2010s that something unusual happened. The performance of tires has improved dramatically and electronic control has become more widespread so that the bank angle is so strong that the inside leg no longer has to be closed, let alone opened. Unless the legs are folded, there is no more space between the body and the road surface.
Originally intended to lower the center of gravity and shift the center of gravity to the inside, there is no more room for the body.
That's why I now also use the lean-in style. The current style is to hang on to the body of the motorcycle, fold it up so that there is no room to open the legs, and then drop the upper body inside in the same way.
No, of course not. This style is the strongest in theory right now.I knew it would be, didn't I? But if you do that, you'll be flying on the high side in a matter of seconds with the slightest operational error. No one else could.
Electronic control has made that recklessness possible. Believing that the computer control does not result in a high side, the entire rider shifts his or her weight to the inside of the motorcycle, and the current racing position is completely bent downward. There is no throttle control for shifting, which is a tremendous riding form made possible by allowing the rider to focus on controlling his cornering attitude.
A generation of riders who grew up watching this combined hang-on/lean-in style champion will naturally adopt the combined lean-in style (just as the youth of the past naturally adopted the hang-on style). The position of the body is also changing to suit the lean-in combination style, which means the motorcycle is evolving in that direction. The same separate handle, but in a completely different position than the former separate handle. (It's shaped like a low, flat-bar handle.)
I guess I'm already outdated as I only feel uncomfortable riding that way. The old soldier doesn't die, he just leaves his head in the center.